Has anyone else experienced this?


Surgeon says the fissure looks like it has healed, but it rarely feels perfect and about once a week I can feel a little tear that takes 2-3 days to feel tolerable again. It is not some free floating “all in my head” nerve pain. It is that recognizable, sharp, papercut-like pain at a very specific site of previous fissure. Perhaps it is within the scar tissue (I am not aware of any blood, but I use a bidet).

I go round and round about every week, which result in scar tissue never fully maturing (i.e., tissue alignment ========)

Sure, I’m limited by it, but I don’t lie around tentatively doing nothing, which would resultant poor maturation of scar tissue (i.e., poor, weak tissue |-/=\\=\/__-/-). Yet, it seems it never fully heals and matures to good strength.

I am doing on yoga, deep breathing, and general calming, tension relief. I remain narrower than the good old days, but during periods of improvement things are relaxed and I can pass a good 1-1.5 inch stool with satisfaction. Other times: "Ting! There is there small tear!"

I guess what I really wanna know… Is there anyone who has experienced this and gotten to the other side of it, full healing? Is it not a fissure anymore and something a bit deeper?

I have had a few little fissures since my LIS surgery in October 2020 but a quick sitz bath immedately after my BM and the fissure was gone. You can still get small fissures over time, they just don't have to become chronic. For me my fissure healed up a few weeks after the LIS and I haven't looked back. I have no pain, no bleeding, it's back to the BM life as I knew it. And remember I had a bad one for over 6 years. Not sure what else I can tell you.

Your responses have always been encouraging. Thanks. I've been told I don't need LIS b/c not tight, which is true when not active. I've had the somewhat poor luck of seeing the CRS whenever it's not active (told him so, but nothing to say). I was referred for a 2nd opinion from a serious narcissist, who also told me never get another surgery and it was essentially all in my head because there was scar tissue that indicated healing (Of note, ruling out somatoform as opposed to medical cause just happens to be my area of doctoral expertise. I politely left despite wanting to tell him to remove his head from his own a$$). I may have to try private CRS. I think you recommended your person and he told me to just go to someone locally. So, I'm kind of stuck, constantly crossing my fingers that my careful diet, movements, and routine will finally lead to healing.

Maybe I should seek my UK parentage citizenship and try NHS.

And did you manage to heal? I am having the same issues.

Better at times, but unfortunately, not completely. I still (even this morning) move in certain ways (some predictable, some not) and I feel that sudden lacerating ping. Sure, I suppose it could be just nerve referral, but seems unlikely given the pain lasts about the same amount of time it would take for a small tear (a week) or micro tear (1-2 days) to heal sufficiently to relieve pain... Does not seem like a coincidence. Interestingly, I got a copy of my hospital chart and it turns out the first CRS I saw said that I could be experiencing micro tears that were not seen on exam by the time I finally got an appointment, which he never told me!!!

Again, I do have medical expertise in chronic pain, so I understand various problems (e.g., preoccupation, central sensitization, inactivity/deconditioning, etc.) and nonpharmacological treatment of chronic pain. So, I do everything I can, but the frequent recurrances are quite debilitating.

I suspect the answer is re-scaping that scar tissue (i.e., fissurectomy) b/c it was not done properly by a general surgeon who scheduled surgery when my CRS was ill (Took my CRS a long time to ask me and realize I didn't orchestrated it and then he was pissed, but physicians always support each other).

So, all of that was so that you can see if you are similar. How long has this been going on for you?

posertiermadness wrote:Your responses have always been encouraging. Thanks. I've been told I don't need LIS b/c not tight, which is true when not active. I've had the somewhat poor luck of seeing the CRS whenever it's not active (told him so, but nothing to say). I was referred for a 2nd opinion from a serious narcissist, who also told me never get another surgery and it was essentially all in my head because there was scar tissue that indicated healing (Of note, ruling out somatoform as opposed to medical cause just happens to be my area of doctoral expertise. I politely left despite wanting to tell him to remove his head from his own a$$). I may have to try private CRS. I think you recommended your person and he told me to just go to someone locally. So, I'm kind of stuck, constantly crossing my fingers that my careful diet, movements, and routine will finally lead to healing.

Maybe I should seek my UK parentage citizenship and try NHS.

hello, I am trying to understand BM pain of scraping and burning - according that doctor its a scar tissue pain that our brain is picking up ? its like anal trauma memory ....also he seems to have some special insights regarding surgeries- since he is warning against it.... did you ever try reading TMS wiki forum? https://www.tmswiki.org/forum/threads/c ... tms.24455/

hi posertiermadness,

I noticed in one of your other posts that you're in Canada too. I have also had dreadful luck with specialists here - one who told me as I wasn't crying I must not be in enough pain for surgical intervention and another who stormed out of the room when I asked if surgery might be the only way out of this. I've had this going on for 16 years since the birth of my first child and haven't found much help along the way so I've just been managing with diet and home treatments and living a pretty limited life in that time.

How are you feeling now? I'm 6 weeks post Botox + fissurectomy and it's been absolute hell trying to recover from that and feeling very stuck too with what to do next. My most recent specialist wants to hold off on anything further and has suggested enemas and aloe to try to heal now.

I'm unsure about the efficacy of the lateral recommendation relative to outcome research, but, of course, most of us get in a position willing to try anything. Wow, does it ever sound like you have seen the same specialists that I have in western Canada! So sorry to hear you've been suffering so long. I can empathize, but no idea of the suffering along with childbirth.

Did you see my post about keeping things soft but not too soft? The problem with PEG is stools tend to come out too fast. Slow and soft is best. I swear by fibre, but making sure a lot of liquids.

Thank you and so sorry for your suffering too, it's such a truly awful affliction. Yes, I think I'm just about at that point of trying anything having tried so much over the years and just wanting to find something that will work once and for all - which I know we're all looking for!

I almost thought you were in Ontario where I am and we'd seen the same people, haha. I guess it's a Canada wide issue, sadly It seems so hard to find a good specialist and then ages to be seen..

Funny, I was actually just reading your post about keeping things soft but not too soft! That will be my aim having taken Miralax off and on for a really long time and coming to the conclusion that perhaps I'm doing more harm than good in the long run. Going to up the fibre and liquid for sure, thank you :)

Yes, it's not great getting up to pee at least once if not twice a night but better than hard and slow. Additionally, (since this is the place for TMI) I find that often it is easily on the scar tissue to lubricate the exit (see below), but then passing gas can be a bit messy until you are ready to go (Often it is not a problem). So, I sometimes line with some tissue if I'm gassy, but as a woman you can indiscriminately use a liner. Hope that helps. (Based on my personal experience and professional expertise in chronic pain, I do find a need to hold the duality of 'taking care' and 'not caring' ... acceptance.)

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