Hi all hope everyone still fighting the demon fissures .I was told by a friend that buscopan was good for spasms so i tried one of these this morning but to no avail,can i take methocarbamol with these or would it make me loopy im having awful spasms today have just had 20 min sitz bath but has brought me no relief, still waiting for hospital date for botox but reading on this forum it going to be a waste of time but i will try this and if no relief i will push for lis .

A low dose of valium might relax things better for you. Have you tried rectogesic or Anoheal - they help quite a bit with spasms.

I hate benzos, I found another option for me to be codeine.
Benzos(valium) are muscle relaxants and anti anxiety, opiods(muscle relaxant and pain killer).
They are both hard drugs but I think codeine is seen as a lesser drug as its OTC here in Australia.
The reason codeine is contraindicated in this condition is it can cause constipation but in reality if you are taking a stool softener its a non issue, 15mg codeine for me helps a lot with spasms and as a bonus, pain. And does not cause me any constipation.
From what I have gathered on the drug class, Benzos are more damaging and have a much harsher withdrawal, where opiods are much more addictive, less damaging and dont have much of a come down at all.
Pretty much if you take a theraputic dose of valium for this condition long term, you can suffer withdrawals and side effects.
But a theraputic dose of codeine for this condition will not cause withdrawal effects or dependence, although is likely to have diminishing returns due to your body developing a dose tolerance which unfortunately is permanent.

I suppose it depends on what works for a particular person.
I found a low dose of valium really helped with the spasms, and I had absolutely no trouble at all coming off them.
We're all different, what works for one , won't work for another!

thanks val +sore guy i have been using rectogesic and have tried anoheal but neither have worked I dont think my doc would perscribe valium he said he cant understand why im having so much pain with spasms i shall make an appointment and discuss these options with him thanks for your advice

Thats true, for me it is just a personal choice, I have had experience with xanax and codeine from surgeries, and for me codeine was a better anti anxiety than xanax oddly.
So I think I just tolerate it much better, although xanax is a little harsher then valium which I havent tried.
I would suggest people just try both and continue with whatever is preferred.
One thing about codeine is you cant drink on it, from reports of someone who has its not even fun to do it.
And you should take a stool softener with it to be safe.

Diddlydel, try Diltiazem, if that doesnt help then push for a codeine or valium Rx as it can be very beneficial in healing the condition.
The idea is to stack rectogeic OR diltiazem with valium OR in my case codeine.
I think a CRS would be much more likely to Rx Valium by the way.
If not then GPs usually hand them out like candy for anxiety.

Soreguy, Anoheal is the UK brand name for diltiazem!
Adele, how long did you try the Anoheal and Rectogesic? They do take a while to work.
Yes, you could say you need valium for the anxiety! Fissures do cause a LOT of anxiety!!

Val i have been using rectogesic since february then recto surgeon suggested anoheal which gave me an itch so changed back to rectogesic.I used it twice daily until tube was finished then got another.Is it safe to use it long term? also do you put it inside your bum or apply outside ,do you use it before or after bm

I used for absolutely ages, it seemed to be fine!
A lot of people put it right inside but I'm far too squeamish to do that! It had the same result though, just rubbed all around it.
If you use rectogesic before a bm, it does lubricate it and it seems less painful as the muscle is relaxed.