Ok I will try that next
thanks for all your help by the way, its really appreciated.

No problem, that's what we are all here for...To help each other get through this and get our lives back!!

Sue1962 wrote:I would do both, that way the inside is lubed up as well and the external part is protected.

totally agree!!! try it, no harm done, hopefully can reduce ur spasms. Also are u doing ur sitz bath after BM?

Luckily i am as regular as clockwork and have one BM each day straight after breakfast. Therefore i set my alarm so that i can take a 30 minute bath directly after my BM each day - I presume a sitz bath has just the same effect as a normal bathtub?

Actually, alot of us on here don't like the sitz, the one that goes on the toilet, it causes too much pressure down there. I use it if I have too, but not very much.

yup, sitz bath shld achieve the same as sitting down on a bathtub. Make sure ur water is not TOO hot but warm instead, as i read somewhere that too hot water will cause spasms instead.