6 years later and I've finally come to help

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6 years later and I've finally come to help

Postby Banshee » 19 Dec 2017, 13:57

Hi.

For years I've wanted to come back to say thank you to the people of this forum and to add my two cents as to what helped after my two year battle with anal fissures. I know the pain that you maybe feeling; I know about clenched fist, shot nerves, and involuntary teary eyes as you stand out side of your parked car half way though a long trip. I know just how "seriously" family and even doctors take your condition. I know because I've been there and I've tried some crazy things to get some sort of relief. I've tried to spay countless substance on my rear from aloe to almond/coconut/fairy oil. I took every fiber/laxative I could get my hands on (I over did it with Miralax at one point and nearly hospitalized myself.) I even remember trying to push my screaming butt against the wintery cold concrete of my garage (sanitary I know.) I've done them all it seems like and now after all of these things being tried, weeded through, and refined into a combination that worked not once, but also though the two later flare ups, I've come to pay back my debt to the forum.

In order of importance:

1. Petroleum Jelly.
It seems so simple, I'm ashamed how long it took me to figure this one out. At one point I had a specialist prescribe me some Nitro suspended in petroleum jelly. It was great, but, much to my horror, the fissures came back after a couple of months. Again, I was able to call into the doctor who readily agreed to supply me more via mail rather than have to deal with such a 'small potatos' case again. I started to realize that while the nitro was great and all, it was partially due to the dry climate I live in that I was having this problem. After a third flare up I just tried dabbing a pinky lubed with petroleum jelly about a 1/4" into myself. To my amazement, it worked even better than the Nitro. About two years later I had another flare up coming and a couple of days of this treatment was all it took to fix the issue.

2. Hydrogen Peroxide
. At one point I started to wonder why some people with AF had what they described as mild discomfort while others felt like Pandora's box was shoved up their ass and an army of Illuminati were trying to pry it open. It dawned on me that it might simply come down to infection the same way one's finger hurts like hell if an ingrown nail gets infected. I tried out the same cure for one on the other. My first attempts to put Hydrogen Peroxide on my sphincter were comical at best as I wasted half a bottle on my contorted upside down posterior. Thankfully, some wise soul put Hydrogen Peroxide into a spray bottle and I've never looked back. Now, anyone who knows anything about Hydrogen Peroxide knows that if it hurts that means it's working and the more it hurt the more working it has to do. Yea. Lava. But in the end it saved my ass *smirk*

3. Diet.
Some people are vegetarian types and some people are meat and potato types and then their was me... I was a chilly dog and fast food four times a week kind of guy. And then this thing called my thirties hit me like a ton of bricks. I had this sense that as long as I kept fairly physical and used the energy I took in as junk food that all would be well. Yea, fiber is a thing. My doctor man told me to use Metamucil indefinitely. He also told me to take double the recommended dosage and like an idiot I did for a few days. Yikes. Listen, you don't have to go super vegan if you don't want to, you just have to start eating like an adult; add some green stuff to every meal regardless of what you like to eat. That and the alcohol thing... They said on here never to drink alcohol, but after long painful days of this shit getting me down, I could really use a drink. I realized that red wine was a blood constrictor and the real problem with alcohol was its diuretic dehydration effects. I found that half a glass of red wine with half a glass of water (umm, rinse repeat) made things better and not worse.

So that's it. 1) keep it moist 2) kill the evil within and 3) eat real food. All the other stuff did help more or less, but these simple three actually lead to and end to the most painful couple of years of my life. I would also add two more tip if you're still here; one practical and one existential. Practically speaking, an ice cube wrapped in a paper towel can offer emergency relief. Like all these long baths they recommend (which make it worse in my opinion) it will ultimately make things worse by further drying you out, but the numbing effect of ice directly placed between your cheeks was worth it after many excruciating hours. The existential advice I can offer you is to reduce your stress. We talk about diet and Nitro and this and that, but lets be clear: If you have AF and you don't have a chronic disease (like crones - my heart goes out to you) you are probably a clencher. I worked a stressful job, had a stressful life, and come from a long line of stressful people. We all clench our ass as a matter of sub-conscious habit. Stress is bad for your ass in case you didn't know. In our modern society asking someone to not stress would be like asking a cave man to not hunt; it's a matter of our survival. So, I have learned how to manage the stress in more productive ways. As wussy as it may sound to some, concentration meditation and rethinking how I see the world via Ajahn Brahm's lecture series has done my life a lot of good these last few years. If you're interested in this aspect of the healing I would recommend the following to videos linked below.

Well that's it. My debt is repaid and it is now time for me to move on with my life. So long, and thanks for all the fish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD0mave5zZU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH2sEqrCza4
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Re: 6 years later and I've finally come to help

Postby hello » 09 Mar 2018, 16:47

thank you!

how long did these methods take to fix it? how often did you use the spray?
2016 fissure
2017 developed fistula which healed with fistulotomy and niphedipine
2018 botox 50 units for fissure plus niphedipine - no luck
2019 botox 70 units for fissure - no luck
2020 thinking of trying fissurectomy and 100 unit botox next
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Re: 6 years later and I've finally come to help

Postby Banshee » 10 Apr 2018, 02:21

oh, hey! Glad I was useful. I used the spray after a morning shower, let sit for a few minutes and then blotted dry before applying the petroleum jelly daily. I started to have noticeably less painful shits about 4 or 5 days in if memory serves. by less painful I mean it hurt like hell, but I wasn't digging my finger nails into myself from clenching my fists in agony. I think it took about a month or so before I became pain free and there were a couple of times later that year where I reopened because I became impatient and/or I wasn't eating right which made my movements just too big. Thankfully, using the jelly alone for a few days afterwards was enough to keep things moist enough to heal without ?infections?

This is all to the best of my recall to be honest. It was a very long time ago and I'm glad to have it as a distant memory. I came back to the board in curiosity after reminiscing with my wife about that time and some of the hell we endured together. I honestly wish anyone reading this the absolute best of luck. -- Give the meditation thing a serious go, that alone has made me into a person I like more than who I once was. Let go of any thoughts that its silly. If it works for you like it did for me, It is really worth it. Boring as hell, but honestly worth it.
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Re: 6 years later and I've finally come to help

Postby clarissairene » 13 Apr 2018, 13:41

Banshee- Thanks... I always wonder what happened to people after I stalk their 3 year old posts lol. They disappear so I think well then they were healed.

So alcohol. I want to pick your brain more on this. My AF tore open 3 times this year and right now its at its worse. Guess what I was doing those three times it happened..... January- concert and girls night - vodka all night long with junk food. (I've been on a really good diet since January so junk food freaked my system out). I got the shits the next day for 2 days and BURNING pain and the AF back. February..... date weekend... concert and bars all night. Vodka, tequila and junk food. Shits for 2 days and AF back that was almost healed. And yeah, my dumb ass did it again 2 weeks ago. Girls trip to DC.... I did good for 2 days last day drank all night long and junk food. Shits and AF back like never before. Doesn't help that last week the CRS did an examination and put a scope up there. Now I have the 24/7 spasms. And just to not knock the CRS... .he did say nope should exam you while its fresh. I made him... I know, stupid but I was like what if you miss something! What if I have an abscess. I took time off work you are Freaking looking up my ass. And so he did and its been hell since :(

So alcohol. Your saying wine was okay for you and didn't tear you up? water and wine? I have 2 trips coming up.... yes, I can be strong and not drink. But why go lol. I don't drink at all except on my trips or nights our which are about monthly.
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Re: 6 years later and I've finally come to help

Postby Banshee » 26 May 2018, 10:59

Hi clarissairene,

Sorry I'm just now seeing your post and I'm really sorry you've had a bad year with your AF.

I was curious how your girls adventure went? Did you try red wine instead of hard liquors? If so, did it seem to help?

I do drink a few times a week after my work day. I've never really cared for wine and tend to stick to whisky or rum mix with water. When I made the link in my mind between red wine's beneficial cardiovascular properties and the need for better blood flow to heal AF, I had a hard time choosing one. I found that the only red wine I really cared for was "Sweet Red" by sutterhome I think. I was later told that sweet red wine was the #1 choice among homeless the nation over, but I guess that said's a lot for my tastes. It was cheep, it tasted crisp and fruity when mixed with water, and it didn't give me as bad a heart burn as some of the others I tried.

I'm certain that more discerning pallets could advice you better as to the best wine to select for taste & sophistication, but this was my experience. It makes me wonder if there are any wines out there that are better for blood flow specifically.

Hope you're feeling better,
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Re: 6 years later and I've finally come to help

Postby Deleted User 7114 » 16 Jun 2018, 09:45

This is great news Banshee! The battle is won! I think I might have a glass of red again tonight. I’m fed up of ruling out all of life’s pleasures in an attempt to cure. My body is not responding as I would like.

I’m with you on the meditation thing. I’ve always thought it was weird and hippy (more fool me!) but I started trying it recently and I have become so much aware of my permanent tight-as stressed out way of living. I’m definitely going to keep it up. I think it is really helping.
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