The steps forward one back - positive thoughts needed

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Re: The steps forward one back - positive thoughts needed

Postby SueMac » 31 Jan 2020, 10:05

Wow you are so disciplined but that formula clearly works well for you! I think we are all individual in what works for us to reduce or eliminate pain and finding what works can be really frustrating and time consuming. I’m glad things are looking up for you please keep us posted. I’m ok but I am now taking a drug called amitripyline to help with the pain which my gp calls neuropathic and this drug has been shown to help. If helps with sleep a lot. It also has helped with pain although not so much in last week or two. I keep pressing on and working on finding that right formula
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Re: The steps forward one back - positive thoughts needed

Postby mamafizz » 01 Feb 2020, 00:54

Hello, just wondering if your lingering discomfort is coming from the levator ani muscles which are tender and overworked from the fissure. ? My fissure has been healed a long while but had it for about 5 months initially,
I had botox but ever since the muscles seem to stay in hyper mode. Luckily the pain is gone it's just this residual muscle issue. Hope you are fully well soon...
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Re: The steps forward one back - positive thoughts needed

Postby brycesara » 02 Feb 2020, 20:56

Mamafizz, sorry about your pain. You had botox? I wrote a post about botox tonight with questions, if you have time to respond would greatly appreciate it. I'm.considering botox but unsure about a few things. Thank you, Bryce
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Re: The steps forward one back - positive thoughts needed

Postby mamafizz » 03 Feb 2020, 01:30

Hello, Sorry you are in pain, the good news is this... After 6 long months of fissure pain, I had Botox, there were mild Hems, I never had anything done for those they simply with time and taking Dr David Rosenfelds Supplement which heals vein health they disappeared, never to return, as well as the Fissure never returned it's been 3 years. The less I paid attention to this the faster I healed, the more you focus or mess with the area, the more it puts the nervous system on high alert and it is a highly innervated area. It will trigger lingering pain. I am not even sure how much Botox the Surgeon used, I decided to not think about it any more and the more I just did life I became pain free. I was put to sleep as an out patient and home the same day.

After all pain originates in the brain. Looking back I would not have even needed the Botox if I would have relaxed and stopped concentrating on it, although it was so painful it was worse due to constantly worrying about it.
The best cure is to keep living, there is pain in being a human! We are never going to not experience discomfort,
Anxiety and Concentrating allows chronic pain, so although Botox did help, in retrospect it would have healed either way, since our bodies are capable of healing itself. I realized that a lot of the pain was actually coming from the attached muscles of the pelvic floor levator muscles etc. The muscles contract and become tight as we worry, just as some people hold tension in their necks others hold it in there tailbone and pelvic areas and lower back.

Muscle relaxation is key. This can originate again with our stress levels.

Our thoughts and brain allow the pain to continue. Our brains are extremely powerful.. takes practice, but fear is a driving force. The worry of it never going away was the culprit, it will fade as you relax and know it is going away. I would not sit down for a year... then I decided to just sit, it hurt like crazy but the more I defied the pain, the more it faded. It's mind boggling but sometimes, you are concentrating on the pain and there are other fears actually causing it... Simply put is this, try to figure out what your actually afraid of.. once identified the anxiety will go away. The cycle will stop when you stop it. You will heal this know it and it will never return. Everything is going to be alright.!!!! Trust this and keep going.. If I can help let me know.. it is a dreadful thing to deal with. Also Dr Rosenfeld has been on National TV and can do a phone consultation and since I was in PA and he is in California, I could not travel, especially sit on a plane for hours and hours in such pain to go to an appt, but honestly I had 2 phone consults and as a result his words were so encouraging I rapidly got better. There is a post in the Dr area with his contact information if you would like to follow up. It was worth the calls for me.. Best Wishes..
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Re: The steps forward one back - positive thoughts needed

Postby brycesara » 04 Feb 2020, 05:21

Thank you Mamafizz. I wrote a new post the other day with questions about botox, could you rely to that post if you have time?
Thank you for your uplifting post. I hope my husband can get there to that relaxed state of mind. I'm going to look up Dr rosenfeld. We are in PA too, Spraggs PA. What part of pa are you in? I read your post to my husband. I hope he heard what you said. Thank you.
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Re: The steps forward one back - positive thoughts needed

Postby SueMac » 10 Feb 2020, 14:21

mamafizz - really interesting stuff. I am with you on the brain making pain continue. I've been told there is no lasting damage and my body is healthy it's just my mind fearing that pain again and perpetuating it. I'm taking medication and this is helping me to retrain my mind that there is nothing to feel pain about. It's working but slowly and I think I will need to be on this medication for a few months yet.
I also have a very patient pelvic physio who is brilliant.
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