Thank you people for giving such good advice and comfort. The AFSF is
Formed BM today as well, but it's my own fault. I didn't dare to take more than one teaspoon. Afraid of diarrhea, and even more, I am afraid I have to go several times a day, but I promise - I will take 2 teaspoons tonight. I have that ripping feeling with formed BM, and that is NOT what my CRS prescribed!
It is nice to see you write about how good Miralax works for you (Jo and sunshinehope), and yes Cheryl my attitude has to change....I'm still working on my dose Jen, and my attitude
One thing I don't understand (I'm a bit sloooow): If Miralax works by keeping water in the stool, why should I take it in the evening with my last meal? Being a morning pooper, I would think that I should take Miralax with breakfast....or would that make me poop during the day/evening (I don't want that, because that would really be "Goodbye life!").
Another thing: Yes Tabby. I still take lactulose with the first 3 meals. Should I quit? How?
I told my CRS that I use lactulose, and then he said I have to take stronger stuff. He didn't say that I should quit, but maybe he just forgot to.
Lecia & Jo: Lactulose don't give me cramps, but I fart like there's no tomorrow (no smell though) my poor family... I have to lower the dose when I want to spend time with others, and I never use public transportation. My car is always close to me so that I can go home if I feel the need to... I would be more that happy to stop taking lactulose.
Kim, he gave me a high dose of the toxin, I don't like that, but what can I do... How often do you indulge now? How much cheese do you eat? I love cheese, and to me it is the only source of calcium...
Lecia, it really is a weird feeling, but since I've had 3 shots of Botox I am getting used to it. The first shot didn't work much, and that was another feeling. Then my butt was bruised, and the poking around when they administered it caused terrible pain during BM the week after the shot.
It must be a strange feeling to have this stuff in your face...I wouldn't have a paralyzed face :D
I am a bit sore after that formed BM, but since it's my own fault - don't comfort me
Corsica

oh corsi,dont blame yourself.i know how you feel.as i mentioned earlier,even i didnt take movicol for a long time when it was given to me.i was taking lactulose and it was useless.movicol made it very soft initially and it helps corsi.try to take more today.if u take movicol in the morning,u will be surely pooping evening/dinner time.it can make you go more than just once but it will be soft.
you might be sore with botox,hope it end soon.cheer up

Corsi Corsi !!
I can only go on my own experience with movicol , but yes same like Pinky if I took mine in the morning I would be pooping by evening and that’s something I don’t want either !!
I have been thinking of your situation this morning and I am wondering whether the prescribed meds you were given from your CRS are in fact what you should be taking , the fact that we have with this slow moving feeling with the Botox I do wonder if a stimulant laxative may just help things along that little bit better ?????
What do you think ???
Your CRS is the professional here, maybe you could phone and ask about the lactoulose , you could mention the movicol too and see what he suggests !
I will comfort you regardless, this is not your fault and I really do understand your feelings about taking these meds …. I am sorry you have pain today
Jen
I am so happy you are trying the evening primrose
This is the perfect time for you to start taking it and if you feel nervy when you are due next you can double your dose a week before you are due!
Keep me posted !
The benifibre could well be my next step but i will wait for now...
I have changed my check up date to the 26th of Novemeber as i would have been due on again around the 1st !

Well, I take my miralax in the morning but I dont think there is one particular way to do it. For me it doesnt give me diarrhea if I do that. Maybe you could move your dose back a bit and see what happens.
Why are you not scared of lactulose but movicol scares you so? I don't think I would change stop taking it cold turkey though. And if it helps you and you don't get stomach aches then I dont think there is any reason to stop it while you take the movicol.
Don't blame yourself. I ripped my bootie open when I backed off my MOM-so I did it myself too. But I still feel like Why Me? I am still compromised down there-can't tell if there was blood this morning from the period blood but my stool is getting softer after that darned hard tip that feels like metal shavings. I am back to taking baths now. Does that help you? I even got out my diltiazem.
Does the weird feeling just stay in your anus or does your whole bum/perineum feel weird? Yeah, I would think that would feel so distracting on your face too!
Try a little more of the miralax tonght. It can take a few days to work so you don't want to be too timid.
Hang in there!

Corsi,
I am glad that you are not mad at me! I just know we have to buy in to any treatment to get the maximum effect. Sometimes I hate taking Miralax as well!! I don't think one regimen works for all. My GI doc recommended taking it in the am, but it seems to worker better for me taking it aft and bedtime. He said some people even take it every other day. That is what caused me so much mental angst as he put the burden all on my shoulders which nearly drove me crazy. I think you have to experiment a little bit which is scary, I know. For example, last night I decreased my Movicol by 1/4 teaspoon and probably shouldn't have. I think we have to remember that our bodies are not machines and are continually influenced by our moods (periods in younger people), what we eat, activity level, stress level, etc. Good luck!!
Cheryl

One thing I don't understand (I'm a bit sloooow): If Miralax works by keeping water in the stool, why should I take it in the evening with my last meal? Being a morning pooper, I would think that I should take Miralax with breakfast....or would that make me poop during the day/evening (I don't want that, because that would really be "Goodbye life!").
If it is a stool softener, in general" it should not "make" you poop or give you the urge to poo -- as a rule. Just make it easier to poop. They can all be, and often are, generally termed as "laxatives," however. It's not so necessary at breakfast because it reaches your stools through your colon, not through your stomach, i.e. it would be absorbed through the bloodstream and from there instigate the colon to irrigate the stools with water. But the leading stool might still be harder because it would be the drier portion and even after irrigation may still be your hardest stool. What you eat at breakfast wouldn't be forming a stool until later in the day....and the mirilax would only be acting on whatever stools are currently on the assembly line.

Kim, he gave me a high dose of the toxin, I don't like that, but what can I do... How often do you indulge now? How much cheese do you eat? I love cheese, and to me it is the only source of calcium...
I indulge myself once or twice a week, with things like a hamburger or pizza. I could eat more junk type foods if I wanted, since I am mostly healed and didn't get my fissure from constipation, but I just prefer being thin and eating healthy.
I eat a slice of swiss about every day.
Tell me again why you cannot get calcium from other sources or a supplement? Why must it be cheese?

In my case softeners made me go many times a day I guess that is because really soft poop travels faster "down the pipe" LOL. Since I am naturally fast (what I eat for breakfast is out late same night {(always was like that my whole life)} , and my dinner is out in the morning), softeners made me go 4-5 times a day . So , everybody is different and unfortunately we all have to try and learn how our own body reacts and find out hard way and with many mistakes : (((.
Corsi - the only thing that is for sure is that you should start trying and yes, you might go more than once but it will not hurt your bum-bum, and who knows - maybe you will still go just once !!!
Wish you luck and let us know !!!!
PS: Kim, Corsi is lactose intolerant . Yes, other things have Ca, maybe she should try Ca rich vegetation ; ) LOL
PPS: Corsi - do you hate sardines ??? Eating them whole would give you ample amount of Ca and other bone forming minerals + so important healthy omega oils and such !!!

So I took 2 teaspoons with my last meal yesterday (it's true, I did!), and I see that is the recommended dose on the Miralax bottle. I also ate 3 - 4 prunes around dinner time (15:00).
My poop was still formed today, but a bit softer than yesteday. As you have said, it may take a few days before it works so I have to be patient. I will try to eat the prunes earlier today. I also ate salad yesterday, but it shouldn't have made a big difference. I live on fruitsmoothies, vegetables, fish, shrimps, juice and some cheese (in the evening). I eat very little, but I eat every 3 hour. Sore today as well, but that is as expected...
I will therefore continue to take the same dose and see how it works.
Lecia, the reason Miralax scares me more than Lactulose is that it can cause addiction (according to what I've read on the internet), and that lactulose only keeps water in the stool. It doesn't matter anymore though, I will take it now - have to try to get rid of this.
Tabby, it's so cool that you have thought about my situation - I guess we all go around thinking about people we have met on this forum. This morning I wondered if I would ever meet some of you if I travel to the USA, Great Britain, Canada, etc...
I would consider using the other laxatives if Miralax doesn't work Tabby, hope I don't have to though - they are strong!!
Lecia, I take a short sitz bath after every BM, and then shower. I have done so after EVERY BM since January. My butt has never been as clean :D
The weird feeling is in the whole area now. The feeling is changing a bit every day, I have been a bit swollen, and have had to push a lot even to fart, and that is changing now...easier to fa...
Cheryl, why should I be mad? Have you said something bad about me in another thread or sent me an angry mail :) I don't think so.
Anyway I'm hopeless at being mad, I always forget what I was supposed to be mad about.
Kim, thank you for your very scientific answer. It makes sense
About being thin and healthy, I actually think that if I heal I will try to stay health/slim as well. I cannot imagine ever taking chances, or eat bad food for a long period of time anymore. I would ALWAYS dread getting back a fissure.
Fissy, I will try sardines...haven't eaten them before. It' is so sweet of you to remember my lactose thing.
I will try sesame seeds as well, I saw Happyass recommend it.
This is a wonderful place to be we're all in this together
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Corsi,
I thought maybe you were mad because I told you that you had to change your attitude about Mirlax! If it makes you feel any better, I take 4 teaspoons twice a day, so I am taking a lot more than you are! I hope to continue to decrease it however as I continue to increase my fiber supplements (i.e. benefibre). I think it would be great if we could all meet somewhere (or at least those that are interested). And if I continue to improve, I hope to start doing some traveling to far away places. But I am taking that idea slowly right now and concentrating on my tap and line dancing which is good for me mentally as well as socially. Good luck with the Miralax!!
Cheryl

Prunes are great Corsi they have iron too
Glad things were a little better today , I re- measured my sachet of movicol which measure 4 teaspoons not 5 !! – Sorry !
Movicol and lactocluse come from the same family and work in the same way they are both osmotic laxatives !
Don’t worry be happy
Wishing you happy toilet times !!
Xx