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Re: Spasms continuing after healed?!

Postby GilmoreGirl » 30 Jan 2017, 14:01

Thanks mamafizz and mpb,

I am going to try the loperamide...it's like my bowels just completely empty out each morning. I only make a trip to the bathroom once a day, but over the span of 15-20 min I have about 6 large but loose bowel movements. And then I'm in excruciating pain for the rest of the day...i also have stomach cramps and bloating quite severely in the morning until I have a bm - i try and hold off as long as I can but eventually I absolutely have to go.

I've done some research and there is a colorectal surgeon who is also a gastro in my area, he is very well respected from what I can see and a friend recommends him. I'm going to explicitly ask my doctor to refer me to him, so I can get fresh eyes to look at the fissure site and see how things are doing. It will also be nice to have a gastro who will take me seriously and help me treat the diarrhea.

I'm just finding it so hard to cope, and I hate myself even more for complaining so much, but it's so hard not to think about everything I've lost because of this...my job, my master's degree, being active/fit/healthy, my boyfriend, several friends, my independence, and it's even making me reconsider my career plans for the future, as it involved physical work. I just wish I had a broken leg or something instead, something that was straightforward and even if the recovery was long, I'd know there would be an end and I would see improvement...I just don't know how to stay positive when there is no improvement, only setbacks
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Re: Spasms continuing after healed?!

Postby Ryleighsmama » 30 Jan 2017, 15:28

I am so sorry GG that you are feeling so rotten. I have all the same problems with my IBS. Please don't do anything to hurt yourself even more. I put up with my fissure for a year, I am on day three after my LIS and it is painful but nothing like the diarrhea due to IBS. If it is an option the LIS might work wonders. Hang in there! I know easier said than done.
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Re: Spasms continuing after healed?!

Postby mamafizz » 30 Jan 2017, 15:41

GG. I am in the same boat also, I have emotional breakdowns as well as I was always on the go, I missed so much with my family, Taking care of my elderly parents, My company, my book tours, it seems the most active people get this...but there is good that will come of this, it is a turning point in our lives, lots of people have them. we have to be kind to ourselves, and trust God it will pass, because It WILL. It will turn out exactly as it should, I know it makes you question, but honestly it is going to get better... Keep going...... After this we can do ANYTHING!!!!! and if we have to vent we have to vent!!!! all good...

Ryleighsmama, happy for you.... You hung in there a year!? . and MPB even longer... God Bless us all ;)
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Re: Spasms continuing after healed?!

Postby mamafizz » 30 Jan 2017, 15:42

GG are you on the east coast? US?
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Re: Spasms continuing after healed?!

Postby mamafizz » 30 Jan 2017, 16:02

GG also Konsyl Can be purchased at wal mart the doctor stated this would help maybe check into that? He said it usually does the trick, he has been on the tv show The Doctors and has excellent success.I am going to try the the diosomin he said this greatly reduces the anal canal inflammation. I will let you know how it goes.
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Re: Spasms continuing after healed?!

Postby Mypoorbutt » 30 Jan 2017, 16:41

Hi GG
Yes I agree try the loperamide now you know it's not a bug it might reset the habit your digestion seems to have got into. Strange that it all comes out in less than 30 mins...are you drinking caffeine at all ? Huni you have been through so very much and still remained caring and a source of strength to myself and many others. Maybe think about where fate is showing you to go...I'm doing my psychotherapy degree and see so many of your amazing qualities would make you a perfect counsellor....but if your heart it set on your masters be patient you will get better and be back to your level of physical fitness x
RM so great to hear your doing well and the diarrhoea isn't bothering your LIS or fissure think the fact that I was going 6 times every two hours was just too much for the op incision and the fissure.
I agree MF this certainly makes us stronger...I used to try and fix things to sort out all my families problems...now not as much as I know I have to take time for me just to breathe
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Re: Spasms continuing after healed?!

Postby mamafizz » 30 Jan 2017, 17:00

Yes .. we have to find the positive especially on our better days.. I am convinced we will all get better. I find that the better our circulation is the better our cells will be able to rejuvenate and heal, so it sounds like it's important to rest and not do anything right now until we are better, even a broken hip or compound fracture has to heal, there are no guarantees for anything, my grandmother had a severe compound fracture when she was in her sixties. terribly long and painful recovery. She was SOOO positive and even though she had pins in her leg she returned strong and better than ever, tough cookie! so we need to have a good mind and body connection always always trust the healing we are capable of even on the worst days. NOW PLEASE REMIND ME OF THIS THE NEXT TIME I i have a really painful day and start ranting about this tight muscle thing and not being able to sit down... lol thanks all. so much.
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Re: Spasms continuing after healed?!

Postby positivesun » 31 Jan 2017, 02:09

Mamafizz,

Thank you for being an angel and helping others while you yourself are in pain.

I have been been in constant pain and have the same symptoms as you. My problems first started a year ago.

CBD oil has definitely helped with anxiety, I purchase online from a highly respected company called NuLeaf Naturals.

Please let me know if the bioflavoid diosomen makes any difference. My doctor told me my fissure is healed too but I still have that constant feeling like something is up there! I can't wait for that day of freedom where I don't have to stress.

I am thinking about trying physical therapy or possibly Botox, as the user Alyssa has recommend this to me as she said she was in a similar spot as us.

I went back and read this entire thread, maybe your Botox wasn't injected in all the spots like Alyssa did to have full healing?

Either way I agree I wish that there was confirmation others had this feeling and it would pass.

Please keep me in mind if you find any ways to heal, I will do the same. I am only 25 and this is absolutely killing me, I know that God has a plan for all of us though and I will do my best to keep my head up. God bless all of you and I wish you health and complete healing very soon.
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Re: Spasms continuing after healed?!

Postby GilmoreGirl » 31 Jan 2017, 11:18

Thanks all,

I took 1/4 of a loperamide last night and now I feel crampy and bloated but I can't go!! Whyyyy is my body so sensitive! Now I'm petrified of tearing the fissure open.

Mamafizz - I'm in Ontario!

RM - I am going to try and see another specialist and get a final opinion on the surgery - I may just go ahead and have it. Do you think the surgery incision site is hurting you lots, or still just the fissure?

Mpb - thanks for your kind words. I have only one semester left to complete to get my thesis so I really don't want to give up on it...but I don't know if I will be able to make it back before my final deadline to finish. I hope I can - I've been working on the same project for 7-8 years.

Really wishing now I could have a bm - is it too much to ask to just have an easy daily trip to the bathroom?! Argh
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Re: Spasms continuing after healed?!

Postby mamafizz » 31 Jan 2017, 11:25

I found this in an old thread.... could be helpful for some!?

I don't know if this helps. I got a major fissure in mid 2009. It healed after about 5 months using Diltiazem. However I was still getting pain and couldn't lead a normal life. It transpired that what was happening was my anal muscle tone had increased with the muscle spasms from the major fissure and despite the major fissure having healed, I was now getting minor fissures with most bowel movements. Like you, the stools were soft, but they were large due to fibre in my diet and Movicol (Miralax in the US I think). However, even attempting to get the stools to a smaller volume didn't seem to help. As I'd been in great pain with the major fissure, I'd also developed something of a pain cycle between bottom and brain, in that the kind of minor fissures that wouldn't bother most people, registered as painful to me.

It took me seeing three surgeons to find this out! In the UK, if a fissure has healed, it's not medical orthodoxy to perform the LIS operation, even if the patient is still in pain. However the third CRS I saw (the best of the lot!) said that some people still need it, even so. So I had the LIS operation and it sorted me out. It took a few months for the pain cycle to downgrade to normal sensation - but everything's normal now. I can even pass large, wide stools, which might cause the kind of minor scrapes which everyone would suffer from in such circumstances, and the sensations are absolutely normal.

I'm not saying that this may be the same for you; I'm just offering information in case it's helpful. My recommendation would be to see a really good CRS and explain what's going on for you, have an examination, and ask for treatment options. The CRS I saw explained that the anus is quite a delicate apparatus and if disrupted (by a fissure for example) it can take a while for it to settle down again. I think having a fissure may also alter, in minor ways, the process of passing a stool (you tense muscles without realising it for example) which again, may take a while to relax back to a normal bowel habit.
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