Juney, Give the botox a try, it couldn't hurt right?

But let me just say, I know it feels awful to have ppl constantly looking at your ass, putting their fingers up there, and all the other shiz that goes along with it. It's humiliating and demeaning. I'm sorry. But seriously, at least consider the botox:)

i wish i wasn't so hesitant to see the dr again. my last appt was the first time seeing this CRS. it hurt like hell when she examined me... and she just pulled it apart and looked, she didn't even put anything in! she said if i was still having problems to come back and she recommended botox and a full exam, which freaks me out! if she could just do the simple shot of botox maybe that would help. i guess it can't hurt to make an appt and at least talk to her about it. i dont want to see someone new who doesn't know anything about my year and half of hell. i HATE explaining everything to a new person.
sighhhh, just another stupid setback yesterday and i feel like my life is spiraling out of control again. i can't handle much more disappointment with this stupid thing.

Oh, Juney, I am soooo sorry to hear that you had a setback : ((( !
I can feel your pain - it must be just maddening to go through all of that pain again and again. It really brakes my heart that after 2 LIS surgeries you are still suffering so much.
Your last app. with CRS was really unpleasant and I think you should find another CRS ! Shop around until you find one that you like. When I was searching for my CRS I would avoid exam by making sure that they know ahead that I am coming for consult only. Sometimes they insisted on exam anyway and I made that mistake only once - letting him do it. Next time I knew better - I have right to refuse !!! So I did. I didn't like the other one and I said I can't be examined since I have my period and I feel uncomfortable. He backed off.
I really think you should find somebody that is known in your area as one of the best butt doctors and go to him. He/She is probably going to be placed in one of the major teaching hospitals in your area or have a private practice. But, word of mouth is also excellent way.
I hope your pain will go away as fast as it came : ((( !

I'd drop Kaiser ASAP Juney. I did and have actually found competent drs. All of the CRS's and surgeons I saw at Kaiser were just awful and caused more pain and damage than anything else--more than 2 yrs later and still unhealed thanks to them.

i guess i'm just stubborn. i was born at kaiser, and i've been so happy with my drs there for every other problem (and there have been lots!!)

not to mention, i can't even imagine what the bills must be like paying to see someone else. i'm struggling as it is. i know i sound like a whiner now.. luckily it's not so bad at this point that i absolutely have to see someone. if i get to the point where i can't stand it anymore, i'll go back to the kaiser CRS one more time and see how it goes before giving up on her completely. for now i'm gonna work on getting past this setback and avoiding the things i know cause my problems (like alcohol and fast food, which i indulged in this weekend!)

My LIS and fissurectomy cost 600$. Labor included LOL !!! I was actually surprised how little it turned out to be , considering that it was done in surgical center by private surgeon and that anesthesiologist was present too.
My friend almost died during labor in Kaiser, I don't know ... Maybe you were extra lucky with your previous doctors !
Best of luck

I was born in Kaiser too, but still would never go back. It's your decision of course, but it's only after I stopped going to Kaiser and started going to a good place that I learned that drs aren't supposed to hurt you during an exam and aren't supposed to be coarse about it if they do. I also leanred that it is best to have a very experienced specialist in the area, which is something that Kaiser wouldn't give me and couldn't give me.
Sorry to bash if you really do like them, but it's truly amazing the difference a good GI and CRS can make.

I hope I never have to join an HMO again. I am glad we have a PPO. It is expensive but I get to choose what doctor I want and can go without a referral.

Juney,

Sorry to hear of your setback. please consider Botox. It has helped me. I would also try to find a new CRS that has done Botox and has experience with it. Let me know if you need anything OK?

Patty